Gladstone & Loretta | 951 Gladstone | 118/112/104m | 35/33/30fs | CLV/PBC | Hobin

[J.OT13]

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[J.OT13]

First phase will be the north tower, furthest from the station. I assume they'll start there to shuffle tenants into the podium before renovation the bread factory and demolishing the rest.

Speculations on SSP and their website is that they may start this year.

 

[RenegadeMountie]

So what’s stopping developers from crossing the 40 story mark? The little italy area shouldn’t have restrictions or am I wrong?

 

[SweazyCavalry]

So what’s stopping developers from crossing the 40 story mark? The little italy area shouldn’t have restrictions or am I wrong?

I believe that wanting a quicker approval process instead of dealing with the city for at least another year is a major issue. But I do agree, there is no view plane west of the CBD, so nothing should prevent a tower going to the 40 or even 50 story mark. I personally believe that much of the areas surrounding Line 1 and 2 should be zoned up to 50 storys and give that extra flexibility to the housing market.

 

[zzptichka]

So what’s stopping developers from crossing the 40 story mark? The little italy area shouldn’t have restrictions or am I wrong?

At a certain height, it becomes more expensive to build than what they could sell it for.

 

[originalmuffins]

These will be pretty good to see go up. Happy to see we're getting a few projects breaking ground in the next few months.

 

[originalmuffins]

I believe that wanting a quicker approval process instead of dealing with the city for at least another year is a major issue. But I do agree, there is no view plane west of the CBD, so nothing should prevent a tower going to the 40 or even 50 story mark. I personally believe that much of the areas surrounding Line 1 and 2 should be zoned up to 50 storys and give that extra flexibility to the housing market.

I agree. It makes zero sense to focus on height beside any LRT station. Allow density up to 55 stories, and let developers go for it if they want to. Anything higher, I can see why they want to review it, but there needs to be a higher point where they shouldn't be discussing heights at any point (55 and below).

 

[J.OT13]

At a certain height, it becomes more expensive to build than what they could sell it for.

I've heard that before, but it seems like Ottawa is the only major city that has these limits. Why is that?

These will be pretty good to see go up. Happy to see we're getting a few projects breaking ground in the next few months.

For sure. It looked like we were going to fall into a slump. but then Dream started, Renaissance is starting up again, this one and Brigil Catherine may very well start this year, all of them would comfortably be top 10 tallest in Ottawa five years ago.

I agree. It makes zero sense to focus on height beside any LRT station. Allow density up to 55 stories, and let developers go for it if they want to. Anything higher, I can see why they want to review it, but there needs to be a higher point where they shouldn't be discussing heights at any point (55 and below).

Agreed.

 

[originalmuffins]

I've heard that before, but it seems like Ottawa is the only major city that has these limits. Why is that?

For sure. It looked like we were going to fall into a slump. but then Dream started, Renaissance is starting up again, this one and Brigil Catherine may very well start this year, all of them would comfortably be top 10 tallest in Ottawa five years ago.

Agreed.

Which I am honestly really happy to see, very glad we got to avoid a slump. We still have a few more that could possibly be in the pipeline this year too too (1047 Richmond, and Granite Curling Club).

 

[Ottawacurious]

Apparently north tower (tower 3) starts spring/June 2025. All 3 to be built in a span of 8 yrs.

 

[originalmuffins]

8 years seems a bit much for a project of this size lol.

 

[hoggytime]

The North tower is the 30 story tower, the shortest of the bunch. Interesting how many towers right around 30 stories are being built west of the core. We realllllllly like out tabletop skylines in this city.

 

[RideauRat]

The North tower is the 30 story tower, the shortest of the bunch. Interesting how many towers right around 30 stories are being built west of the core. We realllllllly like out tabletop skylines in this city.

I've said this before 30 is the new 27

 

[Ottawacurious]

I was reading up some more on it. They are estimating 2.99 billion project costs spent on 2.2MM sq ft. I missed earlier how much of a mixed use development this is as well. Ie. Each 6 floor podium is non- residential. They speak about having medical labs and research to support the new civic. This is a total of 18 floors of mixed use. Within that, the first 2 floors of podium connecting towers 2 & 3 will be amenities and office space. This doesn't include the artist space in the old standard bread building.

"With an ample amount of Retail and Office space, Gladstone & Loretta will become a hub of commercial activity and employment opportunities that will benefit residents and the community. A wide range of retail offerings will make the site remain active throughout the day."

"FUTURE MEDICAL HUB
Gladstone & Loretta is situated a few minutes from the new Ottawa Hospital Civic Campus, a massive $2.4 billion medical centre. Set to be fully completed by 2028, the new hub will feature state-of-the art facilities for healthcare treatment and research. The adjacent Carling transit station and Trillium Pathway will provide quick and convenient access to the hub."

"850 residential suites, 177,000 square feet of office space and 17,000 square feet of retail space" ..."ratio of rentals to condos will depend on market demand."

Devapps documents/zoning requests from 2019 asking for 30, 35, and 41 stories but it's clearly 31, 33, and 35 now. Why wouldn't that be updated?

 

[Westbro]

I've said this before 30 is the new 27

Counterpoint is it means if anything else reaches for the sky it is even more impactful. There are still some super large downtown areas/plots that could come down and be rebuilt. (esplanade anyone?)