1657 Carling Ave. | 28s | 87m | Inside Edge | Project1 Studio

[hoggytime]

Inside Edge Properties is proposing a development consisting of a high-rise, 28-storey residential tower at 1657 Carling Avenue and 386 Tillbury Avenue. It will be massed towards Carling Avenue and sited on a 6-storey podium at the street edge which transitions upward to 9 storeys alongside and behind the tower, and again downward to 6- and 4-storeys towards Tillbury Avenue. The building consists of 370 residential units. Ground floor commercial units are proposed in an amount of ~357m2, divided into four street-fronting units.

Site access is provided by a right-in, right-out driveway aisle on Carling Avenue and a full movement driveway aisle fronting onto Tillbury Avenue. Surface parking spaces (12) are proposed for rideshare/carshare services, delivery services, and retail customers. 184 underground parking is provided for residential tenants and visitors. 374 bicycle parking spaces are proposed. Greenspace is proposed fronting directly onto Tillbury Avenue.

Location: 1657 Carling Ave. & 386 Tillbury Ave.

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[Westbro]

I forsee that entrance from Tillbury causing a bit of an uproar.

The whole lack of Carling LRT in new TMP is likely to look very silly in 15 years as the hospital and this glut of like 20 towers goes up between Maitland and Bronson.

 

[J.OT13]

The City can't even figure out bus lanes, a pair of continuous lines and a few dozen diamonds. No way they would ever be able to figure out light-rail along Carling.

 

[CapitalSeven]

I forsee that entrance from Tillbury causing a bit of an uproar.

The whole lack of Carling LRT in new TMP is likely to look very silly in 15 years as the hospital and this glut of like 20 towers goes up between Maitland and Bronson.

OK, but please explain where the LRT would go east of Preston. When it was first dreamed up, it was going to be a branch of electric LRT running from downtown, but that ship has sailed. None of the options (dump everyone onto line 2, run on the surface downtown, build a tunnel somewhere) is realistic. The city was quite right to conclude a busway is the best option. It's equally right to point out the city seems incapable of moving ahead with any bus improvements inside the Greenbelt.

 

[phil235]

OK, but please explain where the LRT would go east of Preston. When it was first dreamed up, it was going to be a branch of electric LRT running from downtown, but that ship has sailed. None of the options (dump everyone onto line 2, run on the surface downtown, build a tunnel somewhere) is realistic. The city was quite right to conclude a busway is the best option. It's equally right to point out the city seems incapable of moving ahead with any bus improvements inside the Greenbelt.

I think that you are right in the short term. That stretch needs higher order transit, and the space is there, so BRT is the best bet for getting something in place reasonably quick. No idea why the City hasn't prioritized a quick win like that.

On the other hand, the corridor is dense and ready made for LRT, so longer term, it does make sense. I think that the route downtown is Carling-Preston-QED, but obviously there are one or two political obstacles to that option.

 

[hoggytime]

OK, but please explain where the LRT would go east of Preston. When it was first dreamed up, it was going to be a branch of electric LRT running from downtown, but that ship has sailed. None of the options (dump everyone onto line 2, run on the surface downtown, build a tunnel somewhere) is realistic. The city was quite right to conclude a busway is the best option. It's equally right to point out the city seems incapable of moving ahead with any bus improvements inside the Greenbelt.

The LRT should replace the Queen Elizabeth Driveway and connect to Rideau Station east of Preston, connecting Lansdowne.

 

[J.OT13]

I would agree. Long term, median LRT along Carling and up QED to the NAC. Build a pedestrian tunnel from the NAC and Rideau Station, as was the original intention (and before that, a tunnel from the NAC to the Convention, and before that from the NAC to old Union Station).

Carling's ridiculously wide RoW and relativly few lights is tailor made for classic LRT.

 

[Westbro]

Less controversial green, more controversial yellow. Down Glebe Ave run it as a non-separated street car and remove the parking, keep the no straights from Carling to Glebe.

 

[casscadia]

In my fantasy transit plan for Ottawa, I have the Carling streetcar line split when it reaches Bronson: it continues eastwards on Glebe Avenue, just as Glebe is already a one way street, and then it loops around on O'Connor, maybe going into the park around Patterson Creek, before going back westwards on First Avenue (which is also a one way street in this direction,) eventually reconnecting with Carling.

The Carling line is labeled as "11" in this photo. As you can see I have a ton of other lines drawn all over the place.